Why Vegetarians Aren't "Foodies"
I've got nothing against vegetarians (well, most of them anyway), but on an episode of the most recent season of Top Chef, Natalie Portman guest-judged and went out of her way to talk about how she was a big foodie, loved food and was an adventurous eater. There was, of course, one catch: she's a vegetarian. That episode inspired me to write this, which I tried turning into a list, but it only would have turned out something like this:
Pictured Left: Not a Foodie
Top One Reasons Why Vegetarians Aren't "Foodies"
1. Because they're vegetarians
That's really the only reason. I'm sorry, I find it hard to believe that someone who removes virtually the entire food chain from her diet can truly call herself a "foodie". How can you be an adventurous eater if you won't even eat a hamburger? Boasting that you've tried "at least a dozen" different types of lettuce doesn't have quite the same panache as saying you've eaten haggis or fugu.
That's not to say that you're not allowed to enjoy food if you're a vegetarian or a vegan. Maybe you can "love food" if you're a vegetarian, but you clearly don't love it that much because you're cutting out beautifully marbled steaks, succulent pork belly, butter poached prawns and the entire animal kingdom out of your diet. Can you really "love" eggplant? I mean, really?
Eat as much tofu, romanesco, and sea beans as you want, but that won't make you an adventurous eater. An adventurous eater is someone who eats what you eat plus raw fish, offal and a protein that's been cooked in its own fat. That's a true "foodie" who can actually measure adventure by what's piled atop their plate.


64 comment(s)
Whatever... Like you're so enlightened.
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 3 2010 @ 1:25PMThere's soo much food that is suitable for vegetarians. It's very easy to not eat meat and still be adventurous. What was the point of this rant? Just to annoy vegetarians?
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 3 2010 @ 2:51PMNormally love the blog, first time post (sadly).
This is kind of a crazy rant man. Ethical non-eating of animals has nothing to do with not being able to love food. "Beautifully marbled steaks, succulent pork belly, butter poached prawns" are not the only incredible tastes in the world, just coz u have a boner for them. I eat meat, but this post is just pig ignorant.
Ever heard of shojin ryori? No, I bet u haven't.
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 3 2010 @ 4:04PMLike I said, I have nothing against vegetarians, but I honestly don't think a vegetarian can consider him/herself an "adventurous" eater simply because vegetarianism eliminates a gigantic amount of food to eat. The joke about vegetarians "loving" eggplant is exactly that -- a joke. However, Natalie Portman considering herself an adventurous eater and then pointing out that there's a lot of food she doesn't eat is pretty ironic.
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 3 2010 @ 4:14PMThe only reason for being a vegetarian (let alone a vegan) that I can even grudgingly respect is medical. As in meat products will literally make you sick.
The human body evolved to process animal products, and our brains are the product of us taking advantage of the fat and protein from animals.
Vegetarianism for religious reason I can't respect, because I can't respect any adult human being in modern society who still believes in fairy tales.
Now, If you want to eschew any meat or other animal products that aren't ethically and environmentally raised and humanely slaughtered, that's fine. I do my best, but I know I'm not 100%.
But if you don't think any animal ever should be killed or utilized by humans, then you also need to give up any and all human inventions and innovations that have come about by the use of animals. Enjoy your medicine-free existence, eating leaves, living in your cave.
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 3 2010 @ 4:23PM@Estraven, I think you sort of missed the point. Opting for a specific style of cooking / philosophy hardly makes any difference if you're limiting a huge portion of available foods.
Shojin Ryori sounds like an interesting method of cooking, but it's hardly the only way. I'd gladly sit down for a meal prepared in the fashion of your choosing because I'm an adventurous eater. Then we can turn around and have some duck confit the next night...
I'm pretty sure the argument wasn't that Vegetarians don't love food, but rather that calling yourself a foodie when you don't eat meat is like calling yourself a world traveler when you've never been out of the United States.
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 3 2010 @ 11:59PMNope sorry guys. I agree with Catherine.
Unless of course Rebecca is also going to claim that most Hindus, Muslims and Jews are also non-adventurous eaters. Oh, and people with allergies. None of these people can be "foodies', either. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/veggie_boy/
One of a MILLION examples.
Vegetarian isn't just what picky people do, it's a way of life. Attacking it as non-adventurous is just a way to get up people's noses.
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 4 2010 @ 2:52AMI'm a vegetarian, and I consider myself a foodie because I frequent so many different local restaurants and try as many dishes within my realm of eating as possible--which is way more than the average eater who eats fast food as their "dining out".
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 4 2010 @ 7:08AMBy the way, from urbandictionary.com: foodie-
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 4 2010 @ 8:07AMA person that spends a keen amount of attention and energy on knowing the ingredients of food, the proper preparation of food, and finds great enjoyment in top-notch ingredients and exemplary preparation.
A foodie is not necessarily a food snob, only enjoying delicacies and/or food items difficult to obtain and/or expensive foods; though, that is a variety of foodie.
Ha! Vegetarians CAN be foodies.
Rebecca,
Would you eat dolphin, kitten or aborted fetus? No? Then you're not a foodie, you're just a picky eater.
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 4 2010 @ 10:48AMReading this article, I don't know how you can call yourself a "foodie." Are these the only vegetables that come to mind? A dozen kinds of lettuce, and eggplant? Please. You practically admit that you eat nothing but different kinds of meat, and the same tired garnish and spice with each one. Unless you're in the mood for angioplasty, meat ought to be a TINY part of everyone's diet - the plant kingdom is large, there's plenty of room to maneuver! Eat something besides random animal bits and lettuce, for God's sake!
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 4 2010 @ 3:12PMVegetarians are like color-blind people, and you can't be color-blind and accurately describe a rainbow.
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 4 2010 @ 4:19PMThis is one of the most nonsensical mean-spirited rant I've read in a while. I've been called many negative things in my life, but never a unadventurous eater! So enjoy your animal kingdom while I eat the rest of the world one morsel of nama-fu or huitlacoche at a time... but probably not eggplant, unless it is miso cured in the heart of a bamboo stalk.
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 4 2010 @ 7:03PMWay to get 'em riled up Rebecca! They're not only foodies, they're easily offended and can't take a joke...Which is why it's so flippin fun to mess with 'em. Yeehaw!
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 5 2010 @ 7:24AMThe whole point of the article is to get hits. VVM works on page views. By writing something 'controversial' the blogger is guaranteeing hits on the site and by clicking the links, reading and commenting, we are upping their page views.
Mission accomplished.
A foodie is anyone who eats. 'Nuff said
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 5 2010 @ 7:39AMI am not a vegetarian, but my wife is. This is a stunningly ignorant article that's amazingly like a line of other stunningly ignorant "holier than thou" articles about how superior group-of-the-day is to vegetarians, because "LOL look at those silly vegetarians not eating meat! How can they live with themselves?!" Sadly, I suspect the author feels enlightened, not ashamed or embarassed.
It's a shame India is not a bit more socially progressive; that's the only culture so far that she's found accepts vegetarians pretty much unquestioningly.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 5 2010 @ 7:55AMVegetarians and foodies can be be obnoxious, and representations of how overly narcissistic our society has become. Only if they are the smug bastards who boast, "I'm a vegetarian," or "I'm a foodie." Big f-in deal and good for you, but if you excuse me, I must get on with my life. Get a job in a restaurant, you spoiled elitists. Then you'll gain some gastronomic cred...
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 5 2010 @ 8:59AMYou can't say, "I don't do heights, water, or hot places" and claim you're an adventurous traveler. I agree - this is the same thing.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 5 2010 @ 1:54PMyour definition of foodie is limited to being an adventurous eater. what about being passionate about what you do and DONT put in your body? being willing to eat whatever is put in front of you is nothing to boast about. being concerned with the process and practices of the food that you decide to eat seems more interesting and more worthy of identfying with than declaring oneself a foodie without a hint of a moral code. your nitpicking at identity politics, "he thinks hes this, but hes not" is boring and obnoxious.
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 25 2010 @ 7:40PMAdventurous omnivores aren't "foodies" any more than a pure veg by your logic.
Eating haggis makes you a foodie? How about chinese preserved vegetable? North Korean style Kim Chi vs. Southern? Yankee cornbread vs. "true" cornbread?
Vegetarianism is only a barrier you erect between "other organisms" and how you define a "suitable foodstuff".
Harder core than thou..
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 25 2010 @ 8:24PMI completely agree with Bear's comment from above - this article is pretty ignorant. I'm not a vegetarian myself, but I find it really stupid and unnecessary when non-vegetarians get all holier-than-thou for no good reason.
I don't see what the point is in saying that vegetarians are 'real' foodies. To try to prove that you're more knowledgeable? better? shrug. Grow up!
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 25 2010 @ 9:44PMyou're a homo for picking on natalie portman dude
Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 25 2010 @ 9:49PMI totally agree with the author loved the article. HIlarious and true.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 12:18AMSeriously a hamburger? That's your example adventurous eating? This article has the same qualities as a McDonald's burger. I hope you're not getting paid for this steaming pile of $#!+.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 1:18AMWhy does anyone care whether or not another person eats meat or only veggies. In the big scheme of things does it really matter.
It makes me laugh when everyone has to voice their opinion on what another person chooses to eat or not eat.
Honestly people worry about something else that MATTERS!
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 5:37AMRebecca,
Are Catholics not a foodie if they refuse to eat meat on Friday? Are Jews or Mulims not foodies if they refuse to eat pork?
Are the lactose intolerant not foodies if they refuse to eat/drink milk products?
Those with peanut alergies not foodies if they refuse etc ad naseum.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 7:00AMYou people call this a "rant?!" Lighten up already! I might or might not be a vegetarian (does it matter?), but either way, this post was entertaining. The best posts are short, poke fun at somebody, and include funnies ("love" the reference to eggplant...ha!).
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 7:18AMI agree with the author, you can't be adventerous being a vegetarian unless you are doing somehting like, "I eat deathcaps to see if I can withstand the toxins."
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 7:36AMThe article sucks... I am not a vegetarian, but being a vegetarian doesn't mean you can't be a Foodie.
And I DO love Eggplant... there are so many ways to prepare it and it is always delicious.
You sound like a total Nazi and just because it's your opinion that meat is the most important part in food(or whatever your opinion might be) , doesn't mean that everything is how you think it is. You are totally intolerant and your style of writing really sucks... How can you state that your opinions are the absolute truth. Vegetarians can call themselves foodies if they want, and you are no-one to judge or to make comments in such a way. Of course you can post what is on your mind. But the article could have been more interesting and entertaining. It just made me mad, because the way it was written. It also gives the impression that you a very limited knowledge of foods. You sound like a one-sided, short-fused, biased brat. And like I said, I am not even a vegetarian myself.
I will probably not change the way you think; your style says a lot about you. People like you will keep roaming the world like they have, thinking they are so knowledgeable and wise, putting their opinion above other's. I just wanted make a statement and unite to the other numerous commentors that disliked your post. Maybe it will give you something to think about
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 10:44AMI can't believe no one here has mentioned the obvious: That on a Hell's Kitchen episode Gordon Ramsay made dishes -- one chicken, one sausage, one beef -- for his competitors to sample so they could tell him what each was missing. Not ONE of the chefs (all meat-eaters!) could identify that the missing ingredient in all three dishes was meat itself: each of the protein components had been replaced with tofu/tvp alternatives!
The alternative foods market is at present quite extensive; and until "foodies" like the chefs battling for top spot in Hell's Kitchen can tell the difference between real meat and substitute meat, I think there's a lot to be re-examined about the elitism of choosing to eat meat at any cost.
To put that statement another way, in today's market would you eat shark's fin in good conscience? Are we disdaining "conscience" now as a sign of weakness and using it as a delineating measure of people who "really" appreciate food from those who don't? Oh, if I REALLY was a foodie I'd eat the last fertile female of a vulnerable species, just for the experience? Please. Good eaters are cognizant of and reactive to the food communities they inhabit: a real "foodie" recognizes what food means, universally and to specific communities, and also the context of its availability and production. All of this is just as important as the pleasure that comes from its preparation and consumption. Vegetarians aren't just welcome at this table: representing a distinct set of food communities all their own, they *are* a part of this table.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 11:40AMThis is just an ignorant point to try and make. We all arbitrarily cut edible things out of our diets. Someone pointed out eating things like dolphins and cats. Perfect examples. Why aren't you eating those things, you big food wusses?
"Foodie" is an extremely stupid term at any rate, but to suggest that you do not love and respect your food if you also are conscious of ethics and/or the environment is totally silly. What are you trying to prove when you say that other people aren't foodies? That you're better or cooler than those other people? Come on. Get real.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 4:39PMThe ignorance of this post and in the comments here is astonishing. But worst of all is the boring subect matter. Meat eater attacking vegetarians=YAWN. It's as old and tired as gender stereotyping and jokes about priests going into bars.
VV should fire this idiot so he can go work at FoxNews or Entertainment Weekly, where he can play with all the other hacks.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 6:15PMOK then. Apparently vegetarians don't have a sense of humor either. Ha!
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 6:35PMI've been a vegetarian about half my life.
On the one hand, I disagree. I love the foods I eat and I don't feel I'm missing out on eating "marbled steak" anymore than you probably feel you are missing out on eating something you would think is completely gross, like tree bark. I'm not a vegetarian who longs for meat, I truly don't miss it and find it kind of nasty. I've also never had sex with a man, but I don't think I'm "missing out" just because I prefer sticking with women.
On the other hand, meat is an integral part of the diets of most cultures. It's a very versatile food, and a good deal of effort is directed towards meat, not the shoots and stems it is served on. So, I find myself agreeing that anyone who rejects such a significant portion of the food world could never be a "foodie", whatever that is.
I'm pretty sure I'm okay with that. :-) Although, it seems many of those who have commented thus far have serious regrets about their life choices.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 9:56PMPeople who eat as many different things as they *can* (i.e., not throwing darts at the folks with allergies, nor those who are lactose intolerant, et al.) are adventurous eaters, and thus by many folks' definition, are foodies.
People who choose to not explore types of food, whether meaty or veggie, and whether for religious, or fairy tale, or other reasons are NOT (as) adventurous eaters as true omnivores.
I liked the previous comment about world travelers vs. folks who only explore the US, and so will repeat it:
"calling yourself a foodie when you don't eat meat is like calling yourself a world traveler when you've never been out of the United States."
This statement applies equally to folks who refuse burgers as those who refuse brussels sprouts.
Posted On: Friday, Mar. 26 2010 @ 11:18PMHilarious! The article- very amusing. The comments- even more amusing... All right time to start supper - do i qualify as a 'foodie'? (Pork shoulder, 12 hours, charcoal + apple wood?) Please label me!
Posted On: Saturday, Mar. 27 2010 @ 1:59AMI respect the religiously observant from all cultures, and ditto for the Vegetarians who eschew meat for health reasons, though the science is "still out" on that count. (There is more than one way to be healthy...) But the fact of the matter is that most people who are vegetarians are self-absorbed nit-wits who seek only attention, and a way of publicly displaying their perceived "superior otherness." It is no more "ethical" to eat vegetables than it is to feast on flesh. Farming of all types, even so-called "organic," has an imapact on the enviornment. Eating non-local produce even more so, due to transport and storage. A "winter" tomato or strawberry from Chile has a much larger carbon footprint than a locally raised pork chop! Scientific research has shown that plants respond to physical stimuli, experience stress under cultivation, and may feel "pain" during harvest. In the end, the plant dies before you eat it. So you're killing something so that you may live. Which is the true state of nature. We kill things and eat them and they give us life--it is the great circle of existence that occurs in ALL of the natural world. It is good, and morally correct. Limiting your intake of certain foods for "ethical reasons" is a selfish, useless gesture that serves only to limit your experience of living and reduce your intake of crucial nutrients... Any argument to the contrary is smug self-agrandizing b.s., not rooted in truth.
Posted On: Saturday, Mar. 27 2010 @ 7:21AMI'm a meat eater and at first I agreed with you, but as much as a well marbled steak gets me salivating, I CHOOSE not to eat Foie gras (duck liver to you non-foodies) b/c of the way it's raised- the ducks are force fed multiple times a day until they're so fat they can barely walk.
oh, and veal.
that's it- those are the only 2 foods that for ethical reasons I consciously avoid.
Does that make me a bad foodie? I hope not.
oh, and I'm as far removed from a tree-hugging berkenstock wearing hippie as you'll find.
anytime you're in DC, let's go for a burger with sauteed bone marrow at Ray's HellBurger (obama and biden put the place on the map with a visit, but the foodies already knew about it).
Posted On: Saturday, Mar. 27 2010 @ 12:10PMTodd w/the aborted fetus:
Since I eat quite a bit of tuna I imagine I have eaten quite a bit of tuna.
And yeah, I'd have a kitten sandwich, if the process could get USDA approval.
Fetus? Nah. Not a cannibal.
I would draw a line at dog though. Well, big dogs. Pekingese? I don't know, is that really eating, or is it more a snack?
Posted On: Saturday, Mar. 27 2010 @ 7:30PMI rarely get pissed off when I read non-political commentary, but this article did just that. I took great offense to this article and I am glad others did as well.
1) Being a "foodie" is not intertwined with being "adventurous." I AM a foodie vegetarian simply because I take the time, effort, and money to research food, food science, and food history, go on culinary adventures, and become a better cook.
2) Furthermore, eating bull testicles is not the only way to be adventurous in regards to the culinary arts. It also applies to discovering other cultures and spices, eating edible plants long forgotten by mainstream society, etc. I've been surrounded by meat eaters my whole life who wouldn't dare to try half of the foods and flavors I eat. According to everyone I know, I AM adventurous.
Posted On: Tuesday, Mar. 30 2010 @ 3:05PMI read about half way through all the angry vegetarian comments and it kind of makes me wonder why you are letting somebody whom you don't even know bother you so much.
Clearly the idea behind this rant was to stir up a little controversy, piss off some vegans and have them sending their vegan friends here in hordes to help defend each other.
Guess what? That was exactly what the writer wanted to accomplish. Viral media at its finest, and this is another fine piece of evidence how writing controversial content will get you both the links from other websites and the traffic that all bloggers want.
Posted On: Tuesday, Mar. 30 2010 @ 7:10PMWay to split hairs everyone. Go food!
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 31 2010 @ 6:36AMIan, thats the point you moron. Of course a Hamburger is not adventerous. Its bording and plain, and veggies don't even eat those.
The writer is not saying that everyone who eats meat is a Foodie, only that being a Vegetarian excludes you.
I love vegetarian food, I love meat, I love it all. I am still not a Foodie.
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 31 2010 @ 2:02PMI started cooking because I turned vegetarian and my parents didn't know what to make for me. Now I'm a meat loving, veggie loving, professional chef with 15 years behind the line. I think both diets have their good points. Learning both sides makes you a more well-rounded foodie, but knowing both sides makes you a more educated chef. If a vegetarian comes into my place, they get more options than a salad or a plate of steamed vegetables. It's a professional obligation to be able to cater to all of your clientel. Just my two cents.
Posted On: Wednesday, Mar. 31 2010 @ 5:26PMI, and probably Anthony Bourdain, kinda love this post.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 1 2010 @ 1:02PMAs a vegetarian who loves good food (expensive or not)and loves to cook, I must say this post well and truly cracked my crystal.
Posted On: Saturday, Apr. 3 2010 @ 12:01AMWe veggers may eliminate a certain group of foods from our eating routines/food repertoires but our taste experiences aren't limited in the least. We may deny ourselves "succulent pork belly, butter poached prawns, raw fish, offal and protein that's been cooked in its own fat," but we feast on juicy mangoes, velvety artichokes, savory shiitake mushrooms, aromatic sea veggies, nutty edamame, piquant clementines, delectable jackfruit, satiny avocado sparked with lemon, zingy uglifruit, and candy-sweet persimmons to more than make up for it. (OK, now I'm drooling. I think my mouth just watered all over my keyboard.)
And yes, I do love eggplant. Ratatouille or rollatini or babaganoush, anyone?
And for what it's worth, many people who do eat meat don't eat "succulent pork belly and butter poached prawns." They eat the same corporate-made greaseburgers and rubbery lunchmeats that they probably have been eating since they were just past infancy. Now, what is so adventurous about eating a mass-produced hamburger made by a company?
So, that's it. There's a mango in the fridge with my name on it, so I really must be going.
Oh my gosh...How narrow minded does one have to be about the choices of another. The food preferences of individuals is a personal decision. Do you enjoy all foods? Doesn't sound like it. For me that is your choice and not mine to comment about.
Why do I not eat meat? It is MY choice.
Posted On: Sunday, Apr. 4 2010 @ 12:39PMAnyone who thinks they're a "foodie" is a tool. Plain and simple, people either eat for enjoyment or eat for fuel. Being a vegetarian or vegan has no bearing on the matter.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 5 2010 @ 8:06PMI think its hilarious that everyone got so riled up about someone's opinion. Whether or not you are a vegetarian or not or a foodie or not who gives a Sh*%. Do you really expect all or most bloggers to remain totally neutral to all topics and never express an opinion that is stronger than nothing? I don't think they were offensive in how they worded it and I especially agree with the specific instance. If a vegetarian is judging a cooking contest then automatically anything with meat is a losing dish because the judge wouldn't taste it. It is kind of dumb unless its a vegetarian food contest. I think that was the main issue not whether or not vegetarians can be adventurous and also an adventurous vegetarian is not exactly logically compared to a mcdonalds only eating meat eater. That comparison was ridiculous.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 8 2010 @ 5:19AMThis is the most ignorant post on vegetariansim I have ever read by someone who considers themself an expert on food. There are endless options to explore without eating a dead carcass. If that's what makes someone a "foodie" I'll pass.
Posted On: Friday, Apr. 9 2010 @ 7:07PMPersonally I think the 'foodie' movement is kind of bullshit anyway. It is just a fad about going out and eating something exotic and then claiming how sophisticated you are.
In my experience, almost all foodies are poor cooks who overspice their food, spend too much on ingredients, and MARINATE their steaks.
Vegetarians aren't foodies, but that isn't a bad thing.
Posted On: Saturday, Apr. 10 2010 @ 10:59AMI'm kinda inclined to agree with Rebecca. Some of you pro-veggies make some good points but the fact of the matter is, you really can't call yourself an adventurous eater if you're not willing to try meat dishes.
My reasoning is based on the fact that I believe that if I said I was an adventurous eater, but didn't try anything that was solely veggie, people would say I was wrong.
Posted On: Sunday, Apr. 11 2010 @ 4:06PMNicki E. actually cited urbandictionary as a source. Where are the four horsemen??
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 12 2010 @ 10:18PMAmazing. How do you consider yourself an authority on who is or is not a foodie, but the only vegetarian foods you can think of are tofu, lettuce and beans?
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 13 2010 @ 9:00PMP.E.T.A= People Eating Tasty Animals
How in the world can you be a foodie if you won't get out there and try everything. I always thought a foodie sacrifices personal beliefs for love of food! We were meant to eat animals! It's the way of the world! If everyone didn't eat deer because they're afraid to eat "poor little bambi" then deer would over populate and we would have deer freaking everywhere! Anyone doubt me? Check out Ruidoso, NM. Serious Deer problem in the residential neighborhoods. Being a vegetarian is going against mother nature!
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 15 2010 @ 3:58PMI have to say this article is a bit closed minded. Have you even tried the most outrageous beautiful, colorful, and tasty raw veggie meals? Some very creative dishes made solely from vegetables?? Vegetarians CAN be foodies. As a Vegan Food Critic, Im proof of it as I'm very very picky and love great tasting foods.
Just because one doesn't eat animal products doesn't mean their sans taste buds (or don't know what tastes amazing) !
Very sad article...
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 15 2010 @ 4:02PMI am a vegan, and consider myself a foodie as well. I love food, and am a very adventurous eater, as long as the food is ethical. This article insults me.
Posted On: Saturday, Apr. 17 2010 @ 5:49PMA lot of vegetarians are former omnivores who made the change for health or eco reasons. I am one of these, and living in NYC, I find no shortage of interesting flavors to try. A lot of the people I know who consider themselves "foodies" are also really into preparing food and sharing it with others, and it's a great feeling to be able to wow a meat-loving friend with a vegetarian dish. One benefit to cutting meat and dramatically reducing dairy from my diet was that my palate seemed to really clear and expand. I became interested in sampling all sorts of new textures and produce items, pickling my own foods, cooking meals that were far from my American/Continental comfort zone. I think the odd Cult of Pork that exists in my city right now is a little tired... I can understand trying Fatty Cue as a treat with friends, but every menu I see seems to boast pork belly of some sort, whether it's a Vietnamese sandwich place or French fusion. I don't think that adventurousness equates with interest in and pursuit of good food.
Posted On: Saturday, Apr. 17 2010 @ 7:23PMi have not eaten meat for more than half my life (i'm 38). i'm married to a meat and potatoes loving-man and i'm raising my two children to eat meat because i think it's a personal choice NOT to consume it.
there is a lot of carnivore guilt going on here in the blog and the comments. otherwise why the need to fight? to attack? that's your blood food speaking. the blood that gets betwen your teeth and into your gums sends a signal to your brain that there's been "a kill" and it activates aggression. as is plaily apparent in this post and the offensive comments from other insecure carnivores.
nevermind how animals are treated while they await their fate. nevermind the environmental impact of manufacturing it. never mind that in addition to indulging your sense of so-called "adventure" you consume the fear and betrayal and abandonment your fellow mammals experience right before being slaughtered. never mind how the over consumption of meat in america contributes to all manner of health problems.
carnivores should visit slaughter houses on a regular basis or even better, go out and kill your own meat, then maybe you'll have something to say.
foodie does not equal - "i eat everything." it's simply the appreciation of mindfully, artfully, but always tastily prepared food. period.
Posted On: Friday, Apr. 23 2010 @ 10:19AMI agree with the author, however, I disagree with his reasoning. When I think of a foodie, I think of someone who has wide-spread knowledge about all types of food, including meats. I respect all those who choose the veggie/vegan lifestyles, but their palates aren't as experienced as those who enjoy spices, produce and other non-meat products in addition to various protiens. I admit, I have been blown away by some vegetarian and vegan dishes, but there is more to being a foodie than just enjoying delicious food. It's experiencing and appreciating ALL foods, regarless of texture, taste or type.
Posted On: Monday, Apr. 26 2010 @ 3:33PMdoes anyone know that 70% of the amazon that has been cleared so far has been done so to grow grains for the livestock industries not to feed the starving people of the world? I agree that eating locally is excellent in cutting down your carbon foot print, but how many of you strictly stick to locally raised meats and produces? Not only does this generate more green house gasses by cutting of trees which release carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but the entire situation of factory farming raises green house gasses, not to mention your food is rolling around in its own shit since it can't walk. Factory farms polute the water system with antibiotics that are pumped into the animals to keep them from getting sick while they are chest high in shit all day. Btw you eat these antibiotic pumped animals.
The real point here is not that you shouldn't eat meat, it's that you should know where your foods come from, you should understand the impact of growing/raising and transporting it to you. You shouldn't judge someone because they choose to be a vegetarian, not all vegetarians base their moral decisions not to eat meats on "cute" factor. You should do better research when writing an article, its obvious that there was a failure to recognize how many extremely delicious and domestic and exotic dishes are out there that do NOT involve meat. If you discredit every dish that doesn't have meat as a main component then you yourself cannot by your own definition be considered a foodie.
Posted On: Tuesday, Apr. 27 2010 @ 12:08PMI can't believe an adult wrote this article... I'm vegetarian and eat good food all the time. Seriously? Vegetarians aren't"foodies"? I feel like this discussion belongs on a 3rd grade playground right after the "who's cool and who isn't discussion.
You know what? F that term anyways...
Just keep calling yourself a "foodie" while sticking meat in your mouth,It goes without saying...
Posted On: Saturday, May. 1 2010 @ 8:04AMRebecca,
I liked your post; I thought it was funny and fair even though I disagree.
I'm wondering if you had the chance to catch Jose Andres on 60 minutes last night? He, a molecular gastronomist and a meat eater claims that the future of food is fruits and vegetables. His argument is that while the first few bites of succulent pork belly may be mouth watering perfection, all the juices are sucked out and you still have to keep chewing, whereas, say, a pineapple retains its flavor from start to finish.
And out of concern for your own personal food enlightenment, perhaps you should be a bit more adventurous when it comes to your eggplant.
Posted On: Monday, May. 3 2010 @ 8:50AMHey SC,
I did see the 60 Minutes episode. I think meat's overrated to the extent that it shouldn't be all you eat -- I believe in a balanced diet. I'm not who personally believes in just eating one thing (only eating meat or only eating vegetables). I do plan on writing a companion post about why carnivores aren't foodies because I believe the opposite is true -- only eating meat and avoiding vegetables doesn't make you a well-rounded, adventurous eater, much like how I don't think not eating meat doesn't.
Posted On: Monday, May. 3 2010 @ 5:30PM